Moriches 2017
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First weekend - Arrived on Sunday - hung out.
Second weekend - Block Island
Third weekend - Rafted up with friends off of Robins island, then next day day trip to Greenport
Fourth weekend - Essex, CT
Fifth weekend - coming up - Old Saybrook, Ct
Last weekend - Labor day - leaving midweek and probably heading to Mystic, CT then home to Lindenhurst.
I think we used the time well (1 month) and I am happy. You can't look at it from a dollar view as you won't do it. For me it was a taste of having boat somewhere other than south shore.
To be honest at this point, I am convinced I won't retire on the south shore. It's either peconic or CT. CT has some real nice rivers, homes and docks. I bought a big slip in AYC to retire in and now I am thinking that won't happen there.
Second weekend - Block Island
Third weekend - Rafted up with friends off of Robins island, then next day day trip to Greenport
Fourth weekend - Essex, CT
Fifth weekend - coming up - Old Saybrook, Ct
Last weekend - Labor day - leaving midweek and probably heading to Mystic, CT then home to Lindenhurst.
I think we used the time well (1 month) and I am happy. You can't look at it from a dollar view as you won't do it. For me it was a taste of having boat somewhere other than south shore.
To be honest at this point, I am convinced I won't retire on the south shore. It's either peconic or CT. CT has some real nice rivers, homes and docks. I bought a big slip in AYC to retire in and now I am thinking that won't happen there.
Now that I have a bigger boat I'm starting to think that the crowded narrow channels and shallow depths make the South Shore not such a great place for bigger boats. We're not really beach people, the bugs at Watch Hill are killer, not crazy about Sailor's Haven, and the typical destinations down here are starting to get boring. Restaurants with narrow slips and shallow approaches are more the norm down here. Constantly sweating tides and the depth finder is gettting old. Every time I go through the north end of the Amityville Cut my sphincter spasms.
Owning the property I dock at is a double edged sword. It's great from an economic standpoint, not to mention the beauty of being my own dock master and 7.5 miles from home, but the downside is that it makes me reluctant to move to the North Shore. I've been thinking of renting my dock to someone for a season and putting those funds towards something up north somewhere between Oyster Bay and Huntington.
I'd never sell the property down on the South Shore because I've got two kids who are in to boating, and some day when the maintenance gets to be too much I may want to downsize myself, but it sure would be nice to have a change of scenery for a while.
Owning the property I dock at is a double edged sword. It's great from an economic standpoint, not to mention the beauty of being my own dock master and 7.5 miles from home, but the downside is that it makes me reluctant to move to the North Shore. I've been thinking of renting my dock to someone for a season and putting those funds towards something up north somewhere between Oyster Bay and Huntington.
I'd never sell the property down on the South Shore because I've got two kids who are in to boating, and some day when the maintenance gets to be too much I may want to downsize myself, but it sure would be nice to have a change of scenery for a while.
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We went thru Monday over 2 hours past high tide.
No issues. Moriches has plenty of water, not sure what all the whining is.
It was also a west wind. Sea tow guided us.
We did get hammered in the sound coming back from Old Saybrook.
Not bad, but was 6' west swell and since we were heading southeast, it was easy to ride the waves with boat and keep the ride smooth, Hammered part was plum gut, it was a mess. My boat went vertical on a wave as I could get no forward momentum once it came off plane.
Anyway, we are home from Riverhead and our many trips. Was a great month!
Here is my path, little wiggle was because we started to go without seatow and then he made us come closer to him. So you really want to head to that channel in Seatuck cove, then head southwest.
No issues. Moriches has plenty of water, not sure what all the whining is.
It was also a west wind. Sea tow guided us.
We did get hammered in the sound coming back from Old Saybrook.
Not bad, but was 6' west swell and since we were heading southeast, it was easy to ride the waves with boat and keep the ride smooth, Hammered part was plum gut, it was a mess. My boat went vertical on a wave as I could get no forward momentum once it came off plane.
Anyway, we are home from Riverhead and our many trips. Was a great month!
Here is my path, little wiggle was because we started to go without seatow and then he made us come closer to him. So you really want to head to that channel in Seatuck cove, then head southwest.
I went through Tuesday morning at high tide returning from our month in Maine. I saved the track when I followed Tow Boat east at the end of July. I called Tow Boat on Monday to see if there were any changes. I was told NO and if I followed my track in reverse everything would be fine. And it was. Nevertheless less I had a lot of apprehension. I must thank Tow Boat for their guidance and support
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When I look at that chart and I see all the 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 marks, I say to myself "WTF".
I live on the North Shore on a island surrounded by water.
Why do I choose to boat where there is no freaking water!
I can understand those that live on south shore or on the water, but it's really dumb for me.
After a month of deep blue water boating, I am thinking I am done with south shore and that is exactly why I tried riverhead.
I live on the North Shore on a island surrounded by water.
Why do I choose to boat where there is no freaking water!
I can understand those that live on south shore or on the water, but it's really dumb for me.
After a month of deep blue water boating, I am thinking I am done with south shore and that is exactly why I tried riverhead.
I live in Copiague on the water. It's a super location except for getting out of the bay with a large vessel. It's frustrating to be almost land locked when there is such great cruising outside of the bay. Oh well. We are also thinking of boating alternatives, but thank goodness for the time being for the northern passage.
Devocean35
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From USCG. Latest update on
Moriches Bay Shoaling:
Worsening shoaling conditions are being experienced at the entrance to Moriches Inlet and Moriches Bay. It is considered unsafe for mariners to attempt to navigate Moriches Inlet at any time. Buoys are no longer maintained in the inlet. Severe shoaling is also in Moriches Bay along the Long Island Intracoastal Waterway north of Moriches Inlet and Bird Island in the vicinity of Moriches Bay Buoys 26, 27, 28 and 29 extending the entire width of the channel at any tide level. The most severe area of shoaling can be found between buoys 26 and 27 and is less than 3 ft.
Shoaling is also reported in the vicinity of Moriches Inlet East Cut Buoys 3E and 5E. Mariners should be aware that the Aids to Navigation in these areas have been deemed unreliable due to shoaling and mariners are advised to seek alternate routes.
Because of the severe conditions in Moriches Bay the U.S. Coast Guard is considering making the following change to Aids to Navigation:
ESTABLISH the following aids, each aid will be lateral red or green west of the most severe shoaling north of Bird Island (positions are approximate (PA) and are subject to change).
Hart Cove Buoy 1 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.036N 072-44.547W
Hart Cove Buoy 2 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.323N 072-44.295W
Hart Cove Buoy 3 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.401N 072-44.329W
Hart Cove Buoy 5 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.471N 072-44.343W
Hart Cove Buoy 7 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.559N 072-44.373W
Hart Cove Buoy 8 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.677N 072-44.308W
Hart Cove Buoy 9 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.837N 072-43.963W
Hart Cove Buoy 10 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.750N 072-44.058W
Hart Cove Buoy 12 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.792N 072-43.717W
Hart Cove Buoy 14 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.581N 072-43.161W
Interested Mariners are strongly encouraged to comment on this proposal in writing, either personally or through their organization. All comments will be carefully considered and are requested prior to 16 March 2018 to complete the process. In order to most effectively consider your feedback and improve the data collection, when responding to this proposal, please include size and type of vessel, recreational or commercial, and distance from aid that you start looking for it, and if and how you use the signal. Please do not call the Coast Guard via telephone or other means, only written responses to this proposal will be accepted. Refer to Project No. 01-18-001. E-mail can be sent to: D01-SMB-DPWPublicCommentsrb2@gr5tuscg.mil . (First District LNM Week 04/2018)
Moriches Bay Shoaling:
Worsening shoaling conditions are being experienced at the entrance to Moriches Inlet and Moriches Bay. It is considered unsafe for mariners to attempt to navigate Moriches Inlet at any time. Buoys are no longer maintained in the inlet. Severe shoaling is also in Moriches Bay along the Long Island Intracoastal Waterway north of Moriches Inlet and Bird Island in the vicinity of Moriches Bay Buoys 26, 27, 28 and 29 extending the entire width of the channel at any tide level. The most severe area of shoaling can be found between buoys 26 and 27 and is less than 3 ft.
Shoaling is also reported in the vicinity of Moriches Inlet East Cut Buoys 3E and 5E. Mariners should be aware that the Aids to Navigation in these areas have been deemed unreliable due to shoaling and mariners are advised to seek alternate routes.
Because of the severe conditions in Moriches Bay the U.S. Coast Guard is considering making the following change to Aids to Navigation:
ESTABLISH the following aids, each aid will be lateral red or green west of the most severe shoaling north of Bird Island (positions are approximate (PA) and are subject to change).
Hart Cove Buoy 1 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.036N 072-44.547W
Hart Cove Buoy 2 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.323N 072-44.295W
Hart Cove Buoy 3 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.401N 072-44.329W
Hart Cove Buoy 5 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.471N 072-44.343W
Hart Cove Buoy 7 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.559N 072-44.373W
Hart Cove Buoy 8 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.677N 072-44.308W
Hart Cove Buoy 9 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.837N 072-43.963W
Hart Cove Buoy 10 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.750N 072-44.058W
Hart Cove Buoy 12 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.792N 072-43.717W
Hart Cove Buoy 14 (LLNR To be assigned) in (PA) 40-47.581N 072-43.161W
Interested Mariners are strongly encouraged to comment on this proposal in writing, either personally or through their organization. All comments will be carefully considered and are requested prior to 16 March 2018 to complete the process. In order to most effectively consider your feedback and improve the data collection, when responding to this proposal, please include size and type of vessel, recreational or commercial, and distance from aid that you start looking for it, and if and how you use the signal. Please do not call the Coast Guard via telephone or other means, only written responses to this proposal will be accepted. Refer to Project No. 01-18-001. E-mail can be sent to: D01-SMB-DPWPublicCommentsrb2@gr5tuscg.mil . (First District LNM Week 04/2018)