Twin engine docking instruction

in some scary situations that would be a great idea.
 
While we're wishing, I'd like to have an RC tugboat to help with the docking.
 
[/quote] That's a sad story, I guess by that standard I would have never learned to ride a bike perhaps not even a car?
Forget about a boat!
Bill[/quote]
If he had learned to operate the boat without the IPS he probably would still be boating.
 
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Originally posted by OUV11112




That's a sad story, I guess by that standard I would have never learned to ride a bike perhaps not even a car?
Forget about a boat!
Bill[/quote]
If he had learned to operate the boat without the IPS he probably would still be boating.
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That is a really sad story. I hate to see people scared away from something I love so much.

But regardless of IPS failure or knowing how to do it the "old fashioned way" he probably still wouldn't be boating. Boating is full of mishaps and learning curve stuff. That guy who hopped on his boat was a newbie once too. The only difference is he didn't quit.

The point being, if you're scared off by a mishap like that you shouldn't even bother getting on the boat in the first place. There is no one who's ever boated who hasn't had stuff go wrong. You learn and move on. No amount of trainning will prevent mishaps.
 
On Monday (Labor Day) a friend of mine was returning from the weekend on his Sea Ray 400 Sedan Bridge and was struck by lightning. He lost all electronics, even his ignition switches (they had to shut fuel off to the engines to get them to shut down). Since he wasn't drive-by-wire, he was able to make it home with steering, throttles, and transmissions. I agree with Willie that KISS worked in this case where I seriously doubt a pod-drive system would have.
 
Yeah many a time I've thought how cool it would be to have a system that I could control with a wireless remote from anywhere on the boat, but then I think "I can FIX this..."
 
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Originally posted by wezie

The point is he never learned how to drive the boat. He never understood the why and how of the craft. He depended totally on electronics when that was not necessary.
We all know that the marine environment is very hard on electrical and particularly electronic stuff.
His situation was that of oversell and broken promises.
Falling off your bike is one thing
Running over some small fishing boat with a large cruiser is another. Not having the confidence in your equipment is the bottom line.
On the other hand, many buy boats, large and small, and never really use them.

The terrifying thought is the whole "fly by wire" that is being installed in everything we drive.






I disagree that "His situation was that of oversell and broken promises."

It was no one else's fault except his own that he did not spend enough time to learn how to operate his own boat.

Of course, if you have proof positive that someone told him that the joy stick system would never fail and that he did not have to learn about the boat, then please post that proof.

Just who was it that oversold him and broke their promises?

George
 
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Originally posted by Prospective

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Originally posted by OUV11112




That's a sad story, I guess by that standard I would have never learned to ride a bike perhaps not even a car?
Forget about a boat!
Bill







If he had learned to operate the boat without the IPS he probably would still be boating.
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That is a really sad story. I hate to see people scared away from something I love so much.

But regardless of IPS failure or knowing how to do it the "old fashioned way" he probably still wouldn't be boating. Boating is full of mishaps and learning curve stuff. That guy who hopped on his boat was a newbie once too. The only difference is he didn't quit.

The point being, if you're scared off by a mishap like that you shouldn't even bother getting on the boat in the first place. There is no one who's ever boated who hasn't had stuff go wrong. You learn and move on. No amount of trainning will prevent mishaps.
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You are so correct. We all make mistakes.

I got a few feet off the dock once before realizing the power cord was still attached.

George
 
in our prior marina, the owner/captain of a 60+ ft boat would routinely back into his slip while standing in the cockpit using a wireless remote control. boat didn't have a bridge so other than controlling from the cockpit (either wired or wireless), he wasn't docking stern-to at all. looked way cool but i was concerned about the remote failing or some other type of interference (i imagined some kid nearby flying his rc plane while the captain lost total control of his boat), but he never had any problems.

as far as ips vs electric starters are concerned, i agree that we rely on technology now that when new, may have been inconsistent or down right scary to some. not sure if ips has been out long enough for all the kinks to be worked out, but even if it has, i imagine there will be failures in the ips system later on as these boats age. for that alone, i'd think everyone with one should know know how to dock without the ips.
 
I think one of the problems is some folks with more money than brains go overboard and buy a 40' "first" boat with all the bells and whistles (ALL of which will break sooner or later). The learning curve with such an approach is going to be steep, intimidating, expensive, and dangerous. It's no wonder some folks give up.

A more appropriate "first" boat would be a 15' skiff with a 9.9 and a backup paddle. From there the learning curve is a lot less traumatic.
 
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Originally posted by btoran

in our prior marina, the owner/captain of a 60+ ft boat would routinely back into his slip while standing in the cockpit using a wireless remote control. boat didn't have a bridge so other than controlling from the cockpit (either wired or wireless), he wasn't docking stern-to at all. looked way cool but i was concerned about the remote failing or some other type of interference (i imagined some kid nearby flying his rc plane while the captain lost total control of his boat), but he never had any problems.

as far as ips vs electric starters are concerned, i agree that we rely on technology now that when new, may have been inconsistent or down right scary to some. not sure if ips has been out long enough for all the kinks to be worked out, but even if it has, i imagine there will be failures in the ips system later on as these boats age. for that alone, i'd think everyone with one should know know how to dock without the ips.






Does not EVERY boat have a bridge of some sort or other? If not, from where do they pilot the boat.

If a boat is IPS equiped it cannot be docked without the IPS. (I guess you could turn off the engines and throw a rope to the dock.)

It is learning to use the IPS with the JOY STICK that is in question.

George
 
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The point being, if you're scared off by a mishap like that you shouldn't even bother getting on the boat in the first place. There is no one who's ever boated who hasn't had stuff go wrong. You learn and move on. No amount of trainning will prevent mishaps.






That is a good point.
 
george - should have said no flying bridge and no visibility to the stern.
 
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