U-Line Ice Makers

Coolbreeze767

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Vic,
Once upon a time you posted an indepth description and procedure on what the timming gears did in these things and how to troubleshoot operations. Is that tid bit still around. Thanks
 
Les archived it somewhere, the first of the year, to make space available on his server. I haven't been able to figure out where it (and most of my earlier "stickies") got to. I'll have to re-do it and post it but I'm snowed under at the moment - give me a couple days.
 
OK, here's how they work. U-Line ice makers are controlled by a double-throw thermostat, that is the heart of the system. They call it a "cold control." The cold control has a screwdriver adjustment to control the temperature inside the "box" - it should always be set to the warmest possible position - don't ask why, just take my word for it. As long as the cubes remain good and hard, leave it at the warmest possible setting. If the cubes are soft and wet, then adjust it a little colder - no other time. When you first turn the machine on, the cold control is set in the cool down cycle. The compressor and fan run, cooling down the inside of the machine. On newer units, the cold control is located at the front of the machine, at the bottom, behind the lower grille; on older machines (before 1990), it was sometimes located at the rear of the machine. Anyway, it is a little box that has a capillary tube coming out of it and running up the rear of the machine, in through the rear panel, and into the inside of the machine. It fits into a hollow tube that runs into the actual mold. As the machine cools down, this capillary tube senses the temperature of the actual metal ice mold. When the temperature of the mold becomes cold enough that any water inside it will have frozen - whether there's water there or not - the thermostat switches positions inside (double-throw - it breaks the contact that runs the cool down cycle by turning off the compressor and fan and switches to its other internal position, initiating the "harvest cycle").

When the harvest cycle is initiated, the ejector fingers begin to rotate. As the rotation begins, a cam inside the actual ice making unit turns - this does a number of things. It turns on the mold heater, to loosen the cubes inside the mold. The fingers will come down on top of the ice and stall there, until the mold heater has heated the mold enough to loosen the cubes. Then the fingers will begin to move again, pushing the ice cubes out the rear of the mold area, and as it continues turning it will "flip" them forward into the ice bucket. The wire "bail arm" will rise upward. You will hear the cubes drop into the ice bucket. As the fingers continue turning, the wire "bail arm" will come back down, checking the level of the cubes in the ice bucket. If the level of the cubes in the ice bucket is high enough that the wire arm can't come all the way down, it will disable the ejection mechanism so that the ice bucket doesn't over-fill. You will hear the cubes (if there were any) dropping down into the ice bucket. Then, as it continues turning, the cam activates a switch that opens the water valve, bringing water into the mold for the next batch of cubes. Note: this is the ONLY way water will come into the ice mold. If all the earlier things haven't happened, water will NEVER come into the mold. You can hear the water running into the ice mold for several seconds, then it will stop. The incoming water will have warmed up the inside of the mold enough to re-set the thermostat, and it goes back into cool down mode. The fingers "park" and the compressor and fan come back on, and the machine begins to cool down again.

The most common problem with U-Line icemakers is that the thermostat fails over time, and it never goes into the harvest cycle. The machine gets cold but never delivers any cubes or takes in any water. Most people think that the water valve has gone bad. This condition is NOT due to a failed water valve; it is a failed thermostat (cold control). About 95% of the problems with U-Line icemakers can be corrected by replacing the thermostat. However, it is not an easy job, and it will require removing the machine from where it is installed. The thermostat replacement requires access to the rear area of the machine.
 
Thanks Vic, mine is producing alot of ice except it leaks onto the floor, it does not seem to be coming from inside the ice box. any common leaking problems with this 1990 model.
 
Check the gardenhose fitting on the plastic solonoid valve. there is a reducer to 1/4 inch sup[ply line, and a rubber washer between this fitting and the plastic valve.
 
Vic,
Great explanation...better than the manual....you have put paid to those who profess that there is a timer inside...there is NO timer!
Now that I have flattered you perhaps you can help with my problem.
My '95 U-Line is temperamental...normally it operates just as you describe then, sometimes, on the harvest cycle, the fingers start to rotate then stick at the 45 degree position. If I bump the door, or the mechanism, it will continue to rotate and complete the cycle.
This causes a slow production of cubes.
I have already defrosted the icemaker twice, and started afresh, but it continues to be temperamental.
Any ideas?
David
 
David, sounds like the cube ejector motor (part # 102) is on the way out. Before replacing the motor, try reducing the water level just a little (horizontal screw that is spring-loaded, at the upper right corner of the metal mounting plate behind the plastic mold cover). Turn it two full turns in the (minus) direction, and see if that doesn't help things. If not, grab your ankles, the motor will have to be replaced before long (estimate for the motor: $75)

EM2, as Gary mentioned, the most common source for leakage is that they've cross-threaded the garden hose conector on the water solenoid valve. Other possible sources are a cracked plastic internal water line, or the water line that feeds the water up the rear of the cabinet has laid on the side of the compressor, and the heat from the compressor has burnt a hole in it.
Take off the lower grille and watch it, especially toward the end of the ejection cycle, when it calls for water to be fed to the ice mold.
 
Thanks Vic...good advice...I will try today as I'll be on the boat on the dock, for the weekend.
I've previously tried to remove the cover to the mechanism but did not want to force it. Is it easy to remove?
Also, if the motor is 'kaput' would you recommend the motor or the whole mechanism be changed? Disregarding cost, which would be easier?
Thanks
David
 
David, on the bottom of the cover are two notches. You put screwdriver blade in one of them and twist it. Have no fear, you usually wind up cracking the cover when you remove it. But it doesn't actually "break" - it just cracks a little in one of the corners.

The motor is MUCH easier to change out than replacing the whole icemaker unit. It can be changed out in about 20 minutes - you'll need a couple wire nuts to do the job - the factory uses "crimp-on wire nuts" that will be destroyed when you remove them. Orange wire nuts should be the right size - get the small ones, not those with the wings on them. Just two screws to change out the actual motor, and the wire nuts to join the motor wires with the rest of the wires inside.

Changing the whole icemaker unit out will require at least a twelve pack - and maybe a few shots of Jack; also be sure there are no women present within hearing range, and it'll likely take 2-3 hours. [:(!] [:(!] Contrary to what most women seem to think, swearing actually does help...!
 
Vic,
The Admiral is out of town so, this weekend, I planned to sit on my boat in the middle of Vancouver and perve the ladies walking the area, whilst drinking a case of Hardy's Cabernet.
Your advice has given me a much more interesting project to pursue ..... thank you!
You see ..... that's what happens when you turn 70!

"swearing actually does help...!" .......... I agree.

I flew L1011's for a while and everytime a red light flashed I yelled F*** O**! ....... and the light would go out.
 
Hey Davita, I'm not too far behind you - turned 65 yesterday (6/6/42). 4 and 2 also adds up to 6, making it 666; could I be the Antichrist?

I had to laugh about you talking to the red flashing lights on the plane - I've done similar things myself. Hell, I have complete conversations with myself at times; and they're often laced with profanity...!
 
Happy Birthday Vic
Mine was last Sunday (3 June 1937). So we are both Geminis (the twins)!!!
In addition to having 2 penises it is probably why we talk to ourselves...and why we profanely call the other talker a "Stu**d A**". It is reflective; like talking to a mirror.

Don't know about you being Antichrist...I'm not a big believer...but I do believe you know a lot about marine plumbing...and THAT, to me, is much more important.
David
 
happy Bday Vic !

ok... with such detailed information i suddenly felt i had no excuse for not at least checking out what's wrong with my Uline IM. age unknown, it's a CM 45A with SS door, quite a bit of rust around so it's not new!... it's been sitting out in the aft deck wet bar ever since i got the boat and i realized it wasn't working :-( not that we dont' need ice aboard, but i've been using the IM in the big GE fridge freezer in the galley...

so, i pulled out of the cabinet, easy... jsut the trim screws and 2 screw in teh bottom of the chassis. It starts, compressor runs, I quickly feel the "radiator" warming up and the pipe in the back getting ice cold. BUT the fan doesn't start.

question nr 1... should the fan run all the time or only when the unit gets real hot ? I turned it off after a couple of minutes... I checked the blades, after i turned it off, doesn't turn very well so i guess that the first thing to pull. what's thebest place to get parts ?
 
Vic,
Happy B'day!
We are finicky (pias) really didn't want to ingest ice from the tanks, even with filtering etc. We dismembered the guts of the U-Line, and use it for a freezer to hold bag, or brought from home ice (or ice cream!) Works for us.
 
Pascal, fan and compressor are wired parallel to one another. Any time the compressor is running, fan should also run. U-Line's part number for a replacement fan motor is #415, Raritan's part number is #I25 - either one will work.

http://www.boatfix.com/elec/raracc.asp?parttype=pi (scroll down to Mfr's part # I25)

Sometimes the fan motor is full of dust and dirt, restricting its movement. You can clean it up, then remove the plastic caps over the motor bearings and oil it a bit, spin it a few times - and sometimes that's all it takes to get it going again.

To remove and replace it, you'll need to be able to get in the rear of the unit. Remove the back panel. Then tip up the machine and remove the 4 rubber feet. Then grab the bottom base plate that everything mounts onto, and pull it out 4-6", like a drawer. That will give you the necessary access to the fan and its motor. Simply remove it with fan blade attached, pull off the fan blade (it's only a friction fit) and cut the motor wires close to the motor. Install the fan blade onto the new motor, mount the motor/blade assembly, spin the fan to be sure it isn't hitting the shroud, etc. It it hits anything, bend the bracket a bit so that it will clear everything and spin freely. Then splice the wires from the motor to the cut-off wires from the original motor. Push the "drawer" back into place - you may have to press on the refrigerant tubes a little to get them back in place. Then re-attach the feet, plug it in and turn it on. Don't bother to put the rear panel back on until you're sure it's working. It'll work fine without the rear panel being installed...

Sunny, others have done that, too - particularly when they become frustrated with the ice making mechanism not working.

We were experimenting with an add-on gizmo where you use a 5 gallon bottle of filtered water, like from an office cooler, together with a pump, and use that to feed the icemaker rather than using the water from the boat's tanks. Worked well, but the 5 gallon bottle seems a little too bulky (and heavy) to be practical for use on a boat. Some of the newer coolers for home use are now using a smaller water bottle - we may take a look at that.
 
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