Boob in a bubble

"I don't know what I can do!"
He has a heckuvanidea there. However, I recall my 18 Days on the troop ship, just watching and listening...going nuts!
This guy is going to be Months before he hit's any landfall. I couldn't even think about that trip.

I recall some guys making a Voyage Westerly on a Raft made of Coco, Palm and etc, trying to imitate the first voyage from Europe to the Islands.
I think their Raft came apart. That might have been "Kon-Tiki"
 
If there was ever a case for charging someone for the cost of a rescue, this is it. The idiot has nothing other than power bars and water on board and refused rescue when the cutter was on scene. He didn't understand a word the CG guy was telling him about the current and potential weather. Totally unprepared and in an inadequate "vessel."
 
Sometimes I believe you should let stupid run its course.
 
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Originally posted by Les Hall

If there was ever a case for charging someone for the cost of a rescue, this is it. The idiot has nothing other than power bars and water on board and refused rescue when the cutter was on scene. He didn't understand a word the CG guy was telling him about the current and potential weather. Totally unprepared and in an inadequate "vessel."






Someone at my marina today mentioned that this isn't even his first attempt and he was rescued from those as well. I don't know if that's true, but why didn't the UK version of the CG rescue him? Wasn't he off of England?
 
Especially since he had refused help earlier and confirmed in the audio recording he accepted full responsibility for his own safety in spite of being advised by the USCG the Gulf Stream was carrying him on a path to miss Bermuda by a wide margin to the West & North and continue floating out to sea, my question is why was he not subsequently referred to SeaTow or TowBoat/US or other commercial entity since he was not in immediate danger? Was it simply because this hamster activated his PLB when he was tired, giving false impression he was in immediate danger and triggering a required SAR response to a perceived mayday ?

I wonder what safety equipment he had onboard besides the PLB, and what do you suppose would be officially required for an offshore "hydro-bubble" ?

Perhaps he should have trained a few more yrs. on the hamster wheel.
 
all I can say is what a dumb fukc. He should be billed 100% for the CG costs.
 
What happened to the guy in Ontario building a trawler in his back yard? I forget his handle.
 
You know what? Upon further reflection:

I'd give this guy a high five. I won't judge him. You know why? Have you ever tried to roll a plastic bubble all the way to Bermuda? I sure as hell haven't. This guy went for it. Seemed to know the risks but decided to go for the gusto. He wasn't hurting anyone (else).

I'd buy him a beer just to hear the story.
 
Killer whales might be curious enough to attack it.

Yes, on re-imbursing the Taxpayer for checking in on him.
 
So here's the thing with the whole reimbursement for SAR cases that makes me adamantly oppose it, even in cases of extreme stupidity. Here's a hypothetical:

21' boat breaks down while bottom fishing near rocks. By the time their anchor catches, they're within 50 yards of a lee shore - which isn't really 'shore' so much as 'jagged wash rocks scattered in front of rock cliffs with NO shoreside access or rescue possible'. Oh, and to make it special, right between and shoreward of two rocks, one wash, one exposed, with a wash rock just seaward of that one. Old man #1 tells old man #2, quite correctly, to get on the radio and fire off a distress cal, because when - not if, but when, that little anchor line parts or the anchor pops loose, they are on the rocks, and two old men don't stand a chance once that boat is smashing on the rocks on a lee shore. Two young men wouldn't stand a chance.

But old man #2 just read the article about the dude who got billed $250,000 because he had to be rescued somewhere offshore, admittedly due to his own stupidity, and wonders how many thousands of dollars his bill will be if he calls the professionals. His monthly medication tab already breaks his bank, plus food, plus the last few years of mortgage payments, plus trying to help out with all of his grandchildren's college bills, and spending those last couple dollars left over to go fishing every weekend. Old man #2 doesn't have a few thousand dollars to pay that bill, let alone the couple hundred thousand that crazy guy in the news got billed, so he's calling everyone he knows that's still allowed to drive themselves and might have access to a boat on his Jitterbug cell phone. Anchor line finally parts, and both old guys agree it's time to call the pros. Pros get on-scene to see the last bits of debris still bouncing in the shore wash, and spot what's left of the two bodies getting repeatedly smashed on the rocks, but it's too shallow for the Lifeboat to get in and recover the bodies.

It's a hypothetical (at least the parts relevant to this conversation - the first paragraph may or may not have some basis in a true story. Wish I had video, it was pretty slick), but it's no exaggeration. We all know human nature, and human nature is VERY prone to financial considerations when it comes to decision making - even when that decision making is in the interest of self preservation. It doesn't matter whether it's a 'pure accident' or gross negligence that leads to the present situation or the situation forming the frame of reference, humans WILL fail to call for help until it's clearly too late if the slightest concern of heavy financial burden exists. So now SAR assets are just getting used for cleanup and body collection - which will lead to rapid burnout, in turn high attrition, resulting in a very low experience level and morale. Now the people that ARE smart enough to call for help as soon as they know they may need it aren't getting the level of service they deserve. The mishap rate goes through the roof because the experienced guys burned out on running cleanup rather than SAR, so tighter restrictions are placed on response, and now you have a very minimal level of service with heavy bureaucratic restrictions on when and how that response will actually occur.

NO POSSIBLE GOOD comes of forcing reimbursement for SAR efforts. NONE. Excepting hoaxes (not false alarms, but hoaxes), there is no situation that warrants it in light of the precedent it sets, and the fallout that precedent causes.
 
I absolutely agree with Mike's argument & support for the no-reimbursement policy, but still wonder why commercial entities were presumably not sent in place of USCG assets after the hamster refused USCG on-scene assistance earlier and agreed to be accountable for his own action which were emphatically contrary to the offered USCG knowledgeable advice.

My suspicion is that one factor , similar to Mike previous post, was the USCG personnel involved were likely just as intrigued by the hamster's antics, plus of course he was fast becoming a person of public interest.

But the PLB alert was probably the over-riding factor , no? If he had simply attempted relay assistance contact via VHF, perhaps there would have been a different type of response, i.e. , commercial deployment?
 
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Originally posted by ghhedman

What happened to the guy in Ontario building a trawler in his back yard? I forget his handle.




Actually Rick was in the Canadian Coast Guard and is retired. His construction techniques look rock solid I have been following his progress on building She-Kon on another board. That boat will be solid and inspected.
As far as the 2 time offender "boy in a bubble" it's not fair to compare them.
Bill
 
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Originally posted by November Charlie

You know what? Upon further reflection:

I'd give this guy a high five. I won't judge him. You know why? Have you ever tried to roll a plastic bubble all the way to Bermuda? I sure as hell haven't. This guy went for it. Seemed to know the risks but decided to go for the gusto. He wasn't hurting anyone (else).

I'd buy him a beer just to hear the story.






Mike, he didn't know the risks. And he had no maritime experience. News reports say the guy was asking passing fishermen for "directions to Bermuda." Yea, guy, go six hundred miles down highway 54 and turn right at the Gulf station. Give me a break. He had no idea what the CG was talking about when they told him he'd never break through the gulf stream. Meanwhile, the taxpayers spend 10s of thousands of dollars sending planes and ships out there to get the idiot.
 
quote:

Originally posted by November Charlie

You know what? Upon further reflection:

I'd give this guy a high five. I won't judge him. You know why? Have you ever tried to roll a plastic bubble all the way to Bermuda? I sure as hell haven't. This guy went for it. Seemed to know the risks but decided to go for the gusto. He wasn't hurting anyone (else).

I'd buy him a beer just to hear the story.






The real questions are, how the heck did go to the bathroom and what were those two fish you can see swimming away from the "bubble" on the thermal cam? :-)
 
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Originally posted by Les Hall

quote:

Originally posted by November Charlie

You know what? Upon further reflection:

I'd give this guy a high five. I won't judge him. You know why? Have you ever tried to roll a plastic bubble all the way to Bermuda? I sure as hell haven't. This guy went for it. Seemed to know the risks but decided to go for the gusto. He wasn't hurting anyone (else).

I'd buy him a beer just to hear the story.






Mike, he didn't know the risks. And he had no maritime experience. News reports say the guy was asking passing fishermen for "directions to Bermuda." Yea, guy, go six hundred miles down highway 54 and turn right at the Gulf station. Give me a break. He had no idea what the CG was talking about when they told him he'd never break through the gulf stream. Meanwhile, the taxpayers spend 10s of thousands of dollars sending planes and ships out there to get the idiot.








C'mon, Les, he had a GPS - and we all know that, with a GPS in hand, no additional nautical/navigational experience is necessary. . . "in One Hundred Yards, turn right. Continue 36 miles. Your destination will be on your left. . . ." Yup.
 
Maybe he should be required to do community service to pay off his 'debt'
Such as scraping anti fouling paint off CG boats when they are in drydock, or some other equally appealing task....
 
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