Does this qualify as boating?

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JDK

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Two of my all out favorite passions are flying and boating. My wife, God Bless her, said, "Why not combine the two?" and hinted that for my upcoming birthday, she might spring for my seaplane rating.

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I've got some takeoffs and landings in my logbook in seaplanes. They are a whole different kind of challenge. If you think docking a boat in wind can be challenging. . . She found these pics of a seaplane for sale just to tease me.

--Jeff
 
Go for it, Jeff!

In our neck of the woods, coastal British Columbia, the float plane is a principal mode of transportation. The coastal B.C. highway #101, stops about 75 miles north of Vancouver. The float plane traffic takes over from there all the way to Skagway, AK.

We have met folks from Wyoming who fly their float plane from a local lake to Friday Harbour, WA and then take their boat up the inside passage for the summer.

Also a great way to fish the pristine freshwater lakes in B.C. and SE Alaska. Try it! You might like it! :D

Old_Salt
 
In order for it to qualify as boating you will need add some down riggers :-)
 
According to international and inland rules, a seaplane is a vessel.

SOOOO. yes it is boating.

Good luck.

Tom
 
And the only type of vessel a powerboat is stand on to. But I'll be damn if I'm ever going to test that rule like sailboaters like to do to powerboats!
 
I don't know, a single screw might be hard to navigate in a crowded marina! ;)
 
Since I used to waterski behind one on Harveys Lake in the late 50s I would say it definitely qualifies as boating.
 
I say go for it. I gave up my airplane for a beautiful baby boy and a boat. I* am finding out though that boating can be as expensive as flying.
 
we were at poets cove last summer and the float plane traffic was awesome...I love watching them take off and land...sure would be cool to fly one or in one...I'd say knock yourself out..you only live once!!
 
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And the only type of vessel a powerboat is stand on to. But I'll be damn if I'm ever going to test that rule like sailboaters like to do to powerboats!

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There is/was a case going on somewhere up around Minnesota/Wisconsin where a powerboater failed to give way to a seaplane who was taking off. Seaplane had to abort takeoff and in doing so, nearly had a bad accident.

Powerboater ended up arrested but admitted he knew the RoR but stated that in HIS opinion, "Seaplanes didn't have any business on inland waters therefore he didn't feel complelled to give way." USCG told him it didn't matter what "he thought" but instead what the rules are.

Not sure how the case is coming along.

In one of the EAA (Experimental Aircraft Association) chapters, a member finished building a custom seaplane of which he painted it with a US Coast Guard paint scheme--perfectly legal (as long as you don't impersonate a Coastie or LEO).

Said when he lands on a lake or inland harbor and "taxis" up to the dock, "it's amazing how quickly the jet skiiers start behaving."

--Jeff
 
You can get your ratings from Bigfoot Air. 1(888)439-1449

You'll be talking to Barb. Tell her Charlie sent you. I don't know if you can get any kind of deal but, what the hey.
 
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Originally posted by JDK

There is/was a case going on somewhere up around Minnesota/Wisconsin where a powerboater failed to give way to a seaplane who was taking off. Seaplane had to abort takeoff and in doing so, nearly had a bad accident.

Powerboater ended up arrested but admitted he knew the RoR but stated that in HIS opinion, "Seaplanes didn't have any business on inland waters therefore he didn't feel complelled to give way." USCG told him it didn't matter what "he thought" but instead what the rules are.

Not sure how the case is coming along.

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Sounds like there are a lot of facts missing here but the bottom line is the seaplane is required to giveway to a power boat. Just like a powerboat has to give way to a sailboat.

Seaplanes are the low man on the totem pole so to speak. Check your regs.

Again, I will not be one to test this rule, in my mind a fast turning propeller wins every time!
 
Sounds like there are a lot of facts missing here but the bottom line is the seaplane is required to giveway to a power boat. Just like a powerboat has to give way to a sailboat.

Seaplanes are the low man on the totem pole so to speak. Check your regs.

Again, I will not be one to test this rule, in my mind a fast turning propeller wins every time!

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You're right. The FARs require that the most maneuverable aircraft give way to the least maneuverable--but that's in the air (ie, sailplane has right of way over power plane, hot air balloon has right of way over sailplane, etc).

Me? I'm a wimp. I give right of way (air or water or roadway) to just about anyone who wants it. I can see retirement on the horizon and I don't want to be sitting in a chair somewhere having a nurse empty my spit cup in between my stories of how "I had the right of way but the other feller didn't know it and that's why I'm sitting in this chair getting watered like a rutabega everyday."

--Jeff
 
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Sounds like there are a lot of facts missing here but the bottom line is the seaplane is required to giveway to a power boat. Just like a powerboat has to give way to a sailboat.

Seaplanes are the low man on the totem pole so to speak. Check your regs.

Again, I will not be one to test this rule, in my mind a fast turning propeller wins every time!

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You're right. The FARs require that the most maneuverable aircraft give way to the least maneuverable--but that's in the air (ie, sailplane has right of way over power plane, hot air balloon has right of way over sailplane, etc).

Me? I'm a wimp. I give right of way (air or water or roadway) to just about anyone who wants it. I can see retirement on the horizon and I don't want to be sitting in a chair somewhere having a nurse empty my spit cup in between my stories of how "I had the right of way but the other feller didn't know it and that's why I'm sitting in this chair getting watered like a rutabega everyday."

--Jeff

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Speaking of float planes, I found a huge bug in Microsoft's Flight Sim X. Select the free flight mode, then select a float plan and start from an airport. You sit on the end of the runway with the motor running, but you're not going anywhere.
 
There was an idiot flying his little cesna plane over the lake this weekend. He was lower than mast level on the surrounding sail boats...probably only 15-20' above the water (he would have ran in to our helm had he come towards us). Surely that is not legal???
 
You are at the bottom of the pecking order in rules of the road

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It's legal.
He can fly as low as he likes so long as he maintains a minimum 500 feet between himself and any other vessel on the water unless he is landing or taking off.
 
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