Flooring Replacement?

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The present cockpit flooring in my '87 Doral is marine carpet on plywood.Is there another type of flooring i.e fake wood etc.that I could use on top of the plywood to replace the carpeting?
 
Check lumber liquidator's. They have a great range of floating floors that other RO's have used floating floors with success. I like lumber liquidator's only because some of their floating floors are wood laminate over plywood as opposed to this with a picture of wood over a foam core. When my carpet wears out, hardwood (laminate floating) is going in.

HTH
 
Cockpit:as in helm and upper seating area.Usually under canvas covering.Not below deck in the galley/berth areas.
 
If its outside, and will get wet, carpet is probably your best bet. Real wood or laminate will not hold up if it gets wet. I recarpeted my friends '87 baja (also has wood cockpit floor) and 2 years later it still looks new. Any decent nylon or olefin fiber carpet will work. You don't need to spend more money on "marine" carpet if its getting glued down. rip up the old stuff, scrape off the old glue and glue down the new stuff with outdoor carpet adhesive.
 
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Originally posted by KiDa

Check lumber liquidator's. They have a great range of floating floors that other RO's have used floating floors with success. I like lumber liquidator's only because some of their floating floors are wood laminate over plywood as opposed to this with a picture of wood over a foam core. When my carpet wears out, hardwood (laminate floating) is going in.

HTH






My bad. You said cockpit and my feeble mind processed cabin.

I saw a 330 Sundancer with felxiteak (sp?) in the cockpit and on the platform that looked nice.
 
as Kida said, Flexiteak will work as its vinyl sheet goods that simulates a teak floor. Beware, it does get pretty hot when the sun hits it for a while. If your dead set against carpet, flexiteak is probably your best bet. If you get a loop pile carpet, it will be very durable and you can find a remnant in your local carpet store and save a lot of money. Good luck what ever you decide.
 
Kind of surprised they would put carpet over ply for exterior of boat. Is the wood rotted?
 
Good point Greg. Years ago, carpet over ply was not that uncommon. The ply was glassed over but not encapsulated. Carpet was glued on top of that. Drill in to install a seat and in theory the rot started before the bottom of the hull got wet.

May want to take some core samples. If it is at all rotted, the possibility exists any foam flotation is drenched as well. If so, that's a TON of extra weight to haul around.
 
Relly surprises me as I always thought of Doral on the higher end of production boats.
 
Was and is. The boat is 25YO. I don't know if were making the the molds they have now back then.
 
I just had a FLEXITEEK representative out to quote an installation - Pretty expensive stuff when compared to carpeting. I can't drop that kind of jack a this time, and to be honest, I wasn't that crazy about the look of the product up close.

Less expensive alternative to consider:
Last year I went to HomeDpt, picked out some upscale indoor/outdoor carpet, and some industrial type shears. Rough cut the measurements at home, and fine tuned with shears at the boat. Looks great, in the colors I wanted, for a very reasonable price + a little labor on my part. Easy on the feet, hides spider crap, and any water dries quickly on the bridge area.
 
That laminate flooring will hold up well with water. I'm gonna post some photos of some of the leftovers from my Living room laminate replacment. Cheap stuff from Lowes.
It made my living room look marvelous (the floor anyway) and the only thing that went wrong was the Foo Foo peed on the floor and it sorta buckled up at the edges. It went down in time though.
The photos are of some laminate pieces we put out on the Burn Pile last April or May. They've been out there rain and shine for 8 months now.
You can just see the details of the interlocking edges and the inner parts of the tile that has been broken, in the first two photos. The last photo if the burn pile the pieces of tile have been residing in since we finished the floor last April or May.
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I don't know Thud. Just because individual pieces still look good on the burn pile, I don't think I'd install it where it could get wet. Just like the happened with the dog pee, I'd expect water to affect the floor.
 
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Originally posted by Gregory Saracco

I don't know Thud. Just because individual pieces still look good on the burn pile, I don't think I'd install it where it could get wet. Just like the happened with the dog pee, I'd expect water to affect the floor.






A lot depends on the floor. My laminate in the den is actual maple with an aluminum carbonate carbide coating. The laminate is affixed to 3/8 or so plywood.

I agree, wet is wet and if I were to to it I would look for a tight pressure fit as opposed a more permanent install.

Post some pix. You may just want to get all the carpet glue off and paint it or have a white bedliner sprayed in.
 
I was worried about that same thing Greg. I asked the guy at Lowes about it and he said the Mfg says dont install it in the kitchen or bath. But it's all synthetic. There's nothing in there to expand because water just does not penetrate it.

But when this topic came up, I rememberd HOGAN's photos of his boat. He loves it. So I went down to the burn pile to inspect my old pieces.
Sure enough, they dont look any worse than the ones in the floor. Just dirty from the weather decaying other stuff and it falling on those old tiles.

Another thing in favor of this stuff is the quick and easy installation. Most boats wont need more than two boxes of tile for an upper deck. It is kinda heavy though.
So if I was in the mood to use this stuff, I'd engineer the installation so they could all be replaced easily.

They are Slick to walk on too. My grandchildren love to go sliding along in their socks on that stuff. It's like Ice.
So if you had it up on that upper deck and it was wet, you might be doing the Winter Prat-splat before you know it.
 
after I replace the entire cockpit floor, I took it to a fiberglass shop. they installed two layers of matting w/ a layer of fabric with a white pigment to match the sides. just before it sets they took a nap roller and roughened up the walkway. after setting they take a sander knock down the points and sealed it. waterproof and strong. area 13 x 8 was $1k.
 
Don, I think that's a great solution and it will stop future water intrusion and rot to the plywood floor. If you wanted something a little softer under foot, you could loose lay in a carpet with a rubber back so you can roll it up to clean it and wash down the deck. A carpet glued down over plywood will work, but you have to make sure the plywood is absolutely sealed so no water will penetrate as the carpet will tend to hold moisture for a while when it gets wet.
 
Nautolex marine sheet vinyl is also an alternative. I replaced the carpet over glassed plywood on my Sea Ray many years ago with this stuff and it still looks as good as the day it was put down. Mine has no particular pattern(like lines or fake panels) and does have a nice non-skid texture. It doesn't get hot in the sun either, and is totally water and oil proof. Cleans up with just soap and water and a brush for dried fish blood.
 
Check out Deco Dot Vinyl as another alternative. Cabelas shows it on-line. I just put it over plywood in an 18 foot boat. It was an easy install.
 
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