Impeller change before winterization?

jlee815

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Hi,
Last 2.5 times out the Starboard engine was running hot. Went to aprox 200 degrees when I was on plane at 3200 RPMs. If I stay below 3000 RPMS it seems about 175 degrees which is slightly hot for RWC engine. These are 1990 mercruiser 4.3 LX 6 cyl engines with alpha 1 gen 1 drives with the impellers in the lower unit of the drives. I assume they are gen 1.

The impellers have about 2 fresh water seasons on them. There should not be much sand ingested as I don't really go too shallow to suck it up except for a few raft ups. Risers and elbows have about 2 years on them too..

I really want to find out why the engine is overheating so I want to change out the impellers and see if that fixes the problem. If I do change them now I will use the boat 3 times (at most) before spring. I am not a winter boater.

The flip side is I don't want to change the impellers and let them take a set over the winter from now until April since the boat will be winterized and stay in the water.

I know I will make the ultimate decision but what would you do????

Additional info: The haul out is relatively cheap at 100 bucks. The impeller change is relatively expensive at 300.00 per drive.B4 you say that is robbery and do it myself.... If I knew someone who could help me with this in person, who had driveway near a launch ramp at Lake lanier and a good trailer I could use, I would opt to do it with there help if they had experience, a trailer or a driveway. I live an hour away from the boat. So doing it myself, I would be outside in a marina parking lot with no electricity or water in the cold and I would have to buy 2 trailer tires to get my own trailer road worthy. I also don't currently have a workbench to sit the drive in so it would be one drive at a time slow going since this would be my first change. I say all that to say I am willing to pay the $700.00 for the convenience factor since I wont have to worry about anything just drop off the keys and they do the rest. Anyone who has worked on boats in the cold when things don't go right may understand my feelings on this. I am by no means rich but I do own a boat so there ya go! What to do??? Change now and diagnose or wait until Spring?
 
Change now. If it solves your problem then you are set next spring. If it doesn't, you have all winter to do sleuthing and find the real problem.
 
Never removed any impellers to avoid the dreaded "set" over the winter and never had a problem.
 
No need to remove or worry about the impellers forming a set over winter as long as the boat is properly winterized. I am embarassed to say that my original 1994 about 650 hour impellers were just changed the season before last and I never had a single issue. I was just thinking about it one day and said "Hey you know what? I should probably change those out sooner than later!"
 
Hmmm perhaps the impellers are
not the issue. They only have aprox 80-100 hours on them. Who knows they could have an imperfect material make up. 370 motor yacht I am assume those hours were not on an alpha 1 drive? The port temp is not an issue and both impellers were replaced at the same time.
 
Ah ha! Sterndrives. You are correct they were on inboards. You're speaking a foreign language to me about stern drives!
 
I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not so sure the impellers are your problem.

My experience is that when they "go bad", you will be experiencing higher temps at lower RPM's, when the impellers are turning very slowly. As your RPM's are increased, more water is forced into the drives overcoming the need for the impellers.
 
Just to close this post out (I forgot to) the main culprit was the impeller with a contributing factor being a kinked water tube.
I got both impellers replaced in early March and it cost aprox $400.00 per drive. The tech said the Alpha one impeller used with the 4.3 6 cylinder engines are very small so he suggested changing them out every year. Based on the cost, I will wait till the first hint and change them out then.

The water tube perplexed me since I changed that out last year with the OEM Merc part which was the right size. My temps now are always a bit under 150 degrees.
 
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Originally posted by 370 Motoryacht

No need to remove or worry about the impellers forming a set over winter as long as the boat is properly winterized. I am embarassed to say that my original 1994 about 650 hour impellers were just changed the season before last and I never had a single issue. I was just thinking about it one day and said "Hey you know what? I should probably change those out sooner than later!"





Don't know how anyone can get 650 hours out of impellers. I put 92 hours on my boat, a Merc I/O in florida last winter. A new impeller was put in before I went. When I got home in the spring one vane was more than 3/4 broken off. I didn't suck up sand or run aground. I'll keep replacing it twice a year. Cheap insurance.
 
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