Our boat is adjacent to our marina's fuel dock and yesterday a 24 footer with three buzzed and badly sunburned boaters arrived looking for fuel. The captain of the boat unscrewed his fuel fill cap while his buddy looked on next to him, pulling out a cigarette and giving it a light with a match. I yelled over to put out the smoke which he then tossed into the water. Wondering what other marinas do about posting No Smoking signs at fuel docks since ours do not have any. Our pumps are a few feet off the dock so perhaps the owner doesn't think it necessary.
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Our marina has No Smoking signs on the fuel dock. Many people ignore them.
As much as I would like to say something to these people, I don't. There's little point in getting in an argument or even a fight with someone that stupid and I don't have the authority to force them to stop smoking. The original lightup is probably the most risky and by the time you or I notice that they are smoking, that has already happened.
The dock hands don't bother either. It would probably affect their tip.
As much as I would like to say something to these people, I don't. There's little point in getting in an argument or even a fight with someone that stupid and I don't have the authority to force them to stop smoking. The original lightup is probably the most risky and by the time you or I notice that they are smoking, that has already happened.
The dock hands don't bother either. It would probably affect their tip.
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It's one thing for a drunk to ignore the sign but dockhands should refuse to start the pump, or should turn it off, if these idiots smoke.
I can tell you that if I am refueling at a fuel dock and see someone light while filling up their gas boat, I will walk over and turn the pump off.
I can tell you that if I am refueling at a fuel dock and see someone light while filling up their gas boat, I will walk over and turn the pump off.
In this instance, dock hands were busy shutting down for the night. Pumps were turned off for the night a couple of minutes prior to their arrival so their ride home was fortunately goIng to have to be a slow one. I suppose if I mention this to the owner, he'll post something. I don't believe signage of the sort is required, but can imagine the liability litigation fireworks if something happened without a sign.
You might, but it's a good way to get into a fight. If you are bigger than the guy smoking, that's fine. If you are smaller, older, or outnumbered, it would be a risky move. And if you and this person are resident at the same marina, it could cause additional problems. At my marina, it's a long walk up the ramp from the fuel dock to the actual pump.
If it really bothered me, I would say something to management.
You might, but it's a good way to get into a fight. If you are bigger than the guy smoking, that's fine. If you are smaller, older, or outnumbered, it would be a risky move. And if you and this person are resident at the same marina, it could cause additional problems. At my marina, it's a long walk up the ramp from the fuel dock to the actual pump.
If it really bothered me, I would say something to management.
You might, but it's a good way to get into a fight. If you are bigger than the guy smoking, that's fine. If you are smaller, older, or outnumbered, it would be a risky move. And if you and this person are resident at the same marina, it could cause additional problems. At my marina, it's a long walk up the ramp from the fuel dock to the actual pump.
If it really bothered me, I would say something to management.
You might, but it's a good way to get into a fight. If you are bigger than the guy smoking, that's fine. If you are smaller, older, or outnumbered, it would be a risky move. And if you and this person are resident at the same marina, it could cause additional problems. At my marina, it's a long walk up the ramp from the fuel dock to the actual pump.
If it really bothered me, I would say something to management.
I think every gas pump has a sign as part of the assembly to limit the manufactures liability that says No Smoking in addition to other cautions. So the marina may not have the signage but I'm pretty sure it's on all gas pumps I have ever seen even the old style.
I doubt I would say anything but I also wouldn't stand anywhere near the idiots.
Bill
I doubt I would say anything but I also wouldn't stand anywhere near the idiots.
Bill
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Ok ok Ron I get it 
no need to repeat This 4 times!
I have little tolerance for dangerous idiots... And smoking while refueling qualifies
Yesterday I had to go pump out at the next marina and some AH in a CC comes flying into the turning basin, having blown thru the NWZ in the channel and now into the marinas itself. He cut me off about 20' away, never mind I was stand on... He got 5 LOUD blasts which ensured everybody around at the restaurant, dry stack, etc noticed what he did....
no need to repeat This 4 times! I have little tolerance for dangerous idiots... And smoking while refueling qualifies
Yesterday I had to go pump out at the next marina and some AH in a CC comes flying into the turning basin, having blown thru the NWZ in the channel and now into the marinas itself. He cut me off about 20' away, never mind I was stand on... He got 5 LOUD blasts which ensured everybody around at the restaurant, dry stack, etc noticed what he did....
I feel sorry for some of you folks, having to deal with knuckle heads at the fuel dock. I purchase my fuel from a dock that services shrimp boats which are operated by competent mariners. They don't sell gasoline, just diesel, plus the presence of folks missing teeth and wearing white boots, keeps the go-fast crowd away. The diesel fuel is generally 20 to 30 cents a gallon cheaper than the "yacht dock" and with a high volume turn over, no bad fuel. I can usually score some 15-21 count fresh shrimp for about two dollars a pound and get a few fresh flounder thrown in for lagniappe.
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Ok ok Ron I get it
I have little tolerance for dangerous idiots... And smoking while refueling qualifies
Yesterday I had to go pump out at the next marina and some AH in a CC comes flying into the turning basin, having blown thru the NWZ in the channel and now into the marinas itself. He cut me off about 20' away, never mind I was stand on... He got 5 LOUD blasts which ensured everybody around at the restaurant, dry stack, etc noticed what he did....
I only posted it once. Blame the Internet.
I have been known to use my horn for a danger signal and I have been known to blow my portable horn at someone making a wake near the docks, but I find that many people react poorly to being told what they should be doing or not doing by complete strangers with no authotity to do so.
It's all in the delivery of the message. Having worked a fuel dock for years and saw some really dumb things at our dock as well as others, I would rather politely say something and have the offender realize the error of their ways even at the risk a verbal confrontation, then have a boat catch on fire and potentially cause vast amounts of damage either bodily or monetary or both. Usually as soon as you say something they realize what they have done, if others are there they usually immediately support your statement, including any attendant who knows better but......
I once arrived a fuel dock, another boat was already there, that I believed was already done fueIing as they had the engine hatch opened as well as the door to cabin. It appeared to be a grandfather and grandson. After taking on about 20 gallons I see the man put a five gallon bucket up on the gunnel. I can see that it is filled with gasoline! I call the attendant over hand him the hose and tell him I will be back later to pay(I had purchased the boat at this marina and was keeping the boat there on a temporary basis.) The attendant looked at me like NFW. I asked him if he had informed his boss, he said no. I asked as I was shoving off the dock, If he realize the other boat was potentially a bomb? His attitude suddenly change.
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Our pumps are a few feet off the dock so perhaps the owner doesn't think it necessary.
So Bill did you go up to the office and report what you witnessed, did you get a chance to call the fire department or the coast guard, because if I was standing in your shoes I would have made so much noise my wheels would not need any grease for a year. You can not operate any means of transportation impaired in Canada I would assume the same apply,s in the USA there has been to many fatalities because of this, I would not have gotten into a p___ing match with these two I am getting to old, but I will make the call to the proper authorities.
So Bill did you go up to the office and report what you witnessed, did you get a chance to call the fire department or the coast guard, because if I was standing in your shoes I would have made so much noise my wheels would not need any grease for a year. You can not operate any means of transportation impaired in Canada I would assume the same apply,s in the USA there has been to many fatalities because of this, I would not have gotten into a p___ing match with these two I am getting to old, but I will make the call to the proper authorities.
Pascal I noticed when I'm using a weaker WiFi connection on BE you can get multiple posts when you on hit the submit reply button once. It's never happened on another site for me.
Ron you can delete all the repeat posts.
Bill
Ron you can delete all the repeat posts.
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It is not the smokers that I worry about, it is the ones that put the fuel nozzle in the rod holder and pump away.