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Some people are just too stupid to know any better.
Some people just think they can do what they want, and think no one has the balls to tell them anything.
When my wife was an apartment manager, she saw a guy drinking beer out of glass bottles.
She told him it was against the apartment rules. He told her to shut the **** up.
She call the police and they escorted him out of the pool area, and he got an eviction notice for breaking the rules.
I am not sure what you can do at a fuel dock, but at least telling them would educate them, if they have a brain cell.
Some people just think they can do what they want, and think no one has the balls to tell them anything.
When my wife was an apartment manager, she saw a guy drinking beer out of glass bottles.
She told him it was against the apartment rules. He told her to shut the **** up.
She call the police and they escorted him out of the pool area, and he got an eviction notice for breaking the rules.
I am not sure what you can do at a fuel dock, but at least telling them would educate them, if they have a brain cell.
I made it quite clear and let's say firm to put out the butt and the guy did just that. The "captain" of the boat agreed it was dumb of his buddy so there was no need to take any further action. As far as whether or not the guy at the helm was impaired, he wasn't blotto and walked the dock OK so didn't see a need to call the authorities. Had their response and behavior been argumentative, I have no issue with calling the sherrif. I've done it before. Besides, these guys motored away towards where the patrol boats are stationed.
I plan on discussing the signage issue with the marina. I think there should be, in addition to a sign or two, No Smoking painted on the surface of the dock itself. There are many visitors who need to pass thru the fuel area, and many are newbies and might not think about the consequences of their cigarette and that fella who just burped out fuel .
I plan on discussing the signage issue with the marina. I think there should be, in addition to a sign or two, No Smoking painted on the surface of the dock itself. There are many visitors who need to pass thru the fuel area, and many are newbies and might not think about the consequences of their cigarette and that fella who just burped out fuel .
Hard to believe we (well some few of us with a lot of rings on our scales) made it through the late 50's & 60's when 1/2 the gas station attendents had a lit butt hanging from their lips. Of course we got free sets of glasses with each fillup!
But having seen a couple powerboats that were impressively blown apart from ignited gas fumes with accompanying serious injury to POB and to fairly distant persons and property, I believe I would have said something relatively unantogonistic to the oblivious smoker no matter what the size. It's really not a "not my problem" kind of issue.
But having seen a couple powerboats that were impressively blown apart from ignited gas fumes with accompanying serious injury to POB and to fairly distant persons and property, I believe I would have said something relatively unantogonistic to the oblivious smoker no matter what the size. It's really not a "not my problem" kind of issue.
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Anyone ever see the ad for Evinrude from the 1950's where the guy is checking out the fuel line with a pipe in his mouth? Classic!
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The other day I was at the fuel dock on Lake Lanier, Bald Ridge Marina. I was fueling when a 75 foot house boat pulled into a fueling slip. Music blaring for all the lake to hear. Flying a Marine Corp flag off the stern. So I figure it is Memorial Day in 4 days, give a vet a break. He has a "ceiling fan" mounted on the bow portico and some on the upper deck, and they are all running. I thought "his genset is running". Sure enough it is. So there he sits, fueling his houseboat, genset running, ceiling fans running. So as I am signing the credit card receipt the owner of the houseboat comes up to ask the fuel boy about pumpout. I casually remark, "I did'nt know those ceiling fans were rated explosion proof". He said, "They must be, they're on a boat". Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm You can't fix stupid.
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We don't have many houseboats around here but I fail to see how ceiling fans could ignite lower than air fumes...
As to the gas genset, maybe the tank and filler were far away from the genset? Again, i don't know any thing about HBs,
As to the gas genset, maybe the tank and filler were far away from the genset? Again, i don't know any thing about HBs,
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"We don't have many houseboats around here but I fail to see how ceiling fans could ignite lower than air fumes...
As to the gas genset, maybe the tank and filler were far away from the genset? Again, i don't know any thing about HBs,"
One, depends on which way the blades are turning, those things are reversable you know.
Two, I was trying to find in Chapman's or someplace where it says it is OK to have a gasoline engine running while refueling, oe electrical running or anything like that. Seems to escape my viewing. Perhaps you can guide me to a source?
As to the gas genset, maybe the tank and filler were far away from the genset? Again, i don't know any thing about HBs,"
One, depends on which way the blades are turning, those things are reversable you know.
Two, I was trying to find in Chapman's or someplace where it says it is OK to have a gasoline engine running while refueling, oe electrical running or anything like that. Seems to escape my viewing. Perhaps you can guide me to a source?
I don't believe reading it in Chapman's or another source approving of engine's running while fueling up is acceptable, safe procedure is the answer.
As for the No Smoking sign at my marina: within an hour of me telling this story to the dock master, a large sign was put into place in clear sight of anyone approaching the fuel dock. Perhaps other marina's lacking signage and relying on common sense should reconsider.
But today's puzzler is, after a boater filled up with 600 gallone of diesel (large vessel) and sliding out and along the dock, clearing it by several feet, but then throwing it hard into reverse thus slamming into the dock, smashing his swim platform, how this boater made it from VA to the Hidson River. But at least now he has a matching depression on both sides of his boat. He may have had more than another.
As for the No Smoking sign at my marina: within an hour of me telling this story to the dock master, a large sign was put into place in clear sight of anyone approaching the fuel dock. Perhaps other marina's lacking signage and relying on common sense should reconsider.
But today's puzzler is, after a boater filled up with 600 gallone of diesel (large vessel) and sliding out and along the dock, clearing it by several feet, but then throwing it hard into reverse thus slamming into the dock, smashing his swim platform, how this boater made it from VA to the Hidson River. But at least now he has a matching depression on both sides of his boat. He may have had more than another.
I would think it's bad practice or proceedure for a 75' house"boat" emphasis on "boat" be it a 75' Sportfisher or Houseboat to run the generator which in turn ran the cieling fans. What makes a HB any different then a large boat? Lousy handling in rough seas? Otherwise the systms would be very similar as should the refueling proceedures.
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We all have our stories about boats blowing up catching on fire etc - bottom line is gasoline is not something to screw around with. We use it so much in our everyday lives, we get complacent to how volatile it is. I got a wakeup call a month or two ago - needed to light up a brush pile we have at the lake. I usually use lighter fluid, but I was out, and not thinking used gasoline. I put maybe a pint on it - well, I guess the fumes from a pint of gas are a fair amount. By the time I thew a match on it, the thing literally expoloded, scared the sh*t out of me. In an instant it was a 15ft inferno. Never again, and a new respect for gasoline!
I once threw a half cup of gasoline on some brush in a steel drum and went to get matches. Came back and threw a match in and boom it went shooting a flame high into the air. Like a cannon going off. Was far enough away but felt it in my chest. It was the fumes contained within that resulted in such an explosive reaction. Since then I start a small fire inside with newspapers then build from there.
Two of my former co-workers were seriously burned in gasoline fires (at home, not on the job). Both were using gasoline as a cleaning solvent.
Both survived. One didn't return to work, the other was still wearing a synthetic "skin" a year later.
I respect gasoline.
Both survived. One didn't return to work, the other was still wearing a synthetic "skin" a year later.
I respect gasoline.
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"We all have our stories about boats blowing up catching on fire etc - bottom line is gasoline is not something to screw around with. We use it so much in our everyday lives, we get complacent to how volatile it is."
I think was my point, here and to the idiot running the ceiling fans. All it takes is vapors and one spark.
I think was my point, here and to the idiot running the ceiling fans. All it takes is vapors and one spark.
I was watching a friend working on his (gasoline powered I/O) boat. In the engine compartment was a 120 volt AC receptacle. I commented that I was surprised the manufacturer would put one there. He said they didn't, he had installed it himself.
I decided the best thing was to say nothing.
I decided the best thing was to say nothing.