Trim Tab Buttons

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I just purchased a 1988 Regal 233. I have a question about the trim tabs buttons. What button controls what side? Does port control port and starboard control starboard? The boat is going in on Sat. and I was testing everything before we splash it. The wife was on the ground and I asked her to watch the trim tabs. She said that when I press the port button the starboard side moved. I am thinking this is wrong. If so I do I make it right? Thanks for your help.
 
Typically the starboard button will control the port tab, conversely the port button will control the starboard tab.
 
No, it's right. Port switch control Starboard tab and Starboard switch is controlling the Port tab.
 
I don't have a boat with trim tabs but for learning, can I ask why it's set up like that? Seems counter intuitive to me but I have no experience, just wanted to learn.
 
Because the control shows what you WANT to accomplish; therefore, if you want 'up' on port side, you push 'up' on port side, but stbd tab controls the port action, etc.
 
Know which switch controls which tab is, in my opinion, only important when trouble shooting. When operating the boat, I don't care about how its wired. I just want to do it without thinking.
When up on plane the tabs are fully retracted. If the boat leans to one side due to wind or load, I just click the switch. Which switch? If the boat needed to be lower the port side; press the port switch forward(bow down). I like to envision the switches as the boat itself. What ever corner is high, push the corresponding switch and it pushes that corner down. The only other thing to remember is that pushing one switch forward will have the same affect as pushing the other rearward. While this may sound a little confusing reading, a minute on the water using the tabs and it will make sense and there is very little thinking needed to do it correctly.
 
Thanks guys! Always good to learn new things, even if it may be many years till I have a boat with tabs :-)
 
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Originally posted by mandm1200

When up on plane the tabs are fully retracted.






What do you mean by fully retracted? I am still new to the trim tab thing myself, trying to figure out how to use them to get the best fuel usage. So is retracted having them both in the up position?

Thanks
 
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Originally posted by Volffas

quote:

Originally posted by mandm1200

When up on plane the tabs are fully retracted.






What do you mean by fully retracted? I am still new to the trim tab thing myself, trying to figure out how to use them to get the best fuel usage. So is retracted having them both in the up position?

Thanks








Yes, fully retracted is both in the full up position which is slightly greater than parallel with the hull.

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It's the position they should be in when preparing to pull into your slip or onto your trailer. Reason being if you have to make any abrupt corrections in reverse, the amount of water force on the tabs could literally rip them out of the transom. Now how many of us remember to do that 100% of the the time? Anybody raising their hand right now is lying! That's why you go with quality over price because the good ones are built like bricks and are very forgiving of our forgetfulness. The majority here have gone with Bennett and never looked back.

HTH.
 
quote:

Originally posted by mandm1200

If the boat leans to one side due to wind or load, I just click the switch. Which switch?

I like to envision the switches as the boat itself. What ever corner is high, push the corresponding switch and it pushes that corner down. The only other thing to remember is that pushing one switch forward will have the same affect as pushing the other rearward.





Perfect explanation.
 
Fully Retracted = fully 'up' in David's pic. to achieve fully up, simply press both tab switches to 'bow up' for several seconds.

Also - as Mandm points out, usually "one switch forward will have the same affect as the other switch back". If you don't use the 'back' (bown up) control, over time it can result in putting both tabs in a down position, 'fighting' each other, and the engine fighting the drag produced by the tabs . . . not an efficient way to cruise. (when you get used to using tabs, you'll find there are SEVERAL situations were both in the down bow down position is a good thing, but not in the situation we're talking about here.)

If, for example, I find the stbd bow is down (while cruising), I always FIRST press stbd bow UP to correct. if no response (which means the controlling tab is fully up), THEN press port bow DOWN.

It may be confusing to read, but it makes sense when you're out there. ;)
 
I could not have answered the question about which control operates which Trim Tab better than the posters! Good work guys!

I thought I would post this for some of the folks who are new to Trim Tabs:

Trim Tabs 101, How To Get The Best Results

If you are new to using Trim Tabs you may find this helpful in learning how to use them to achieve the best results. All boats react differently to Trim Tabs and the best way to find out what works best for yours is to experiment, and remember, use short bursts of the controls and let the boat settle down between corrections. Using them will soon become second nature.

Tom McGow
Bennett Marine

Getting and Staying Trimmed

All boats assume different fore to aft attitudes at different throttle settings and vary in sensitivity to lateral weight distribution.

A boat’s optimum running attitude is determined by the operator. While some people may define optimum running attitude as the highest possible speed for a given amount of engine RPMs, others desire the best possible fuel economy, yet others may be trimming the boat to get just the right mix of speed and wake (such as for waterskiing.)

Optimum running attitude is when the boat is running to the operator’s satisfaction for the given operating conditions. There are as many optimum running attitudes as there are boats and boat owners

A good way to determine a boats optimum running angle is to run the boat lightly loaded at full speed in calm water. During this test observe the boat’s bow in relation to the horizon. Most boats run at or near their optimum attitude under these conditions. This should give you a feel for the appearance of the wake and bow spray when running at an efficient attitude. Note that not all boats will achieve their optimum running attitude under these conditions. Some boats will benefit from extra lift even when running at their maximum throttle settings. If you feel the boat will benefit from added bow down trim when running at speed start with the trim tabs fully up and deflect the trim tabs in short bursts. Be alert to changes in the boats handling, as you bring the bow down. Observe any changes in RPMs and/or speed. Adjust power trim if applicable.

Indications of Running Untrimmed

When a boat is running untrimmed the bow spray will exit the sides of the boat far aft. The stern wave (wake) is high and curling like a breaker on the beach. The rooster tail is high and close to the stern. The engine is laboring and the ride tends to be less smooth.

Indications of Running Trimmed

The bow spray moves forward and is flung not as far from the boat. The wake diminishes in height, as the rooster tail flattens out and moves away from the boat. The engine is operating under less load as evidenced by the tachometer and speed as well as sounding “less strained”.

One Step at a Time

The key to obtaining optimal results from trim tabs is to operate them in short “bursts” and let the boat react before making another adjustment. The amount of time between corrections is influenced by the size of the trim tabs and the boat’s speed. This will help avoid overtrimming or ending up with one tab too far down when correcting lateral trim. You will quickly become acquainted with a boat’s particular traits.

Take Off

Properly sized trim tabs can significantly reduce the time needed to get up on plane. They also allow a boat to keep its bow down and stay on plane at lower speeds.

As the throttle is advanced the stern of the boat begins to squat, lifting the bow. As the boat accelerates, push the bow down position of the helm control in short bursts. The boat reacts by the stern lifting, the bow coming down, speed increasing, and reduced engine laboring. If you over do it and deflect the tabs too far the boat will end up overtrimmed. When over trimmed, the steering becomes “over sensitive” and wants to pull off course to port or starboard. If this occurs, operate the control “bow up" until the desired attitude is established.

Getting the Most from Power Trim

Adjust the trim tabs to achieve the desired running attitude. Then use the power trim to position the propeller thrust parallel to the water flow. If necessary, re-adjust the trim tabs to fine tune the attitude. By observing the boat’s speed and engine RPMs the best combination of trim tabs and power trim will be apparent. Trim tab angle indicators and a power trim angle indicator are particularly useful in duplicating effective settings.

Trimming to Sea Conditions

When running into a head sea you want to trim the bow down so the sharp forward sections of the boat do their work cleaving the waves. This provides the most comfortable ride and minimizes stress on the boat (and passengers). In a following sea the tabs should be fully retracted for maximum steering response.

Correction of a List

The normal control setup for trim tabs operates in relation to the desired changes in trim and not the actual movement of the tabs. Therefore, do not think about what the tabs are doing, but rather on the control and what you want the boat to do. As above, make the corrections in bursts and allow the boat to settle to the new settings. You may find it easier to correct the boat’s fore and aft attitude before you correct the side to side trim.

Correction of Porpoising

Operate the tabs in very short bursts of about half a second. Continue until porpoising subsides. The objective is to have only a very slight amount of tab deflection, just the amount needed to cure the up and down motion of the bow.

 
We're missing a big asterisk here: There isn't a "standard" to trim switch configuration, so don't assume! Every time I drive a Formula, I send everyone's drinks sliding across the tables until I acclimate to the port button operating the port tab.
 
I installed the "Trimdicator" a couple years ago. Best investment I made in the boat in quite awhile.
 
quote:

Originally posted by SLW

We're missing a big asterisk here: There isn't a "standard" to trim switch configuration, so don't assume! Every time I drive a Formula, I send everyone's drinks sliding across the tables until I acclimate to the port button operating the port tab.






I was just going to mention that. The racers and some gofasts will have the right switch to starboard tab and the left switch to port tab. I have only come across it on Formula.

There may be other$ but I $hall crui$ing in my $ea Ray for decade$ watching them pa$$ me by. $uch i$ life.
 
One thing I would like to add, don't push one up and one down at the same time, might blow the fuse. Been there done that.
 
Also, on my boat each tab moves at a different rate so holding both buttons down for the same time does not produce a uniform result when trimming the boat on plane. The hydraulic pump is on the starboard side of my boat with a short tube to that tab and a longer run of tube to the port tab which I assume is the reason the port tab does not move as fast as the starboard tab.
 
Am I glad I read this thread. The operation of the trim tab buttons is certainly counter intuitive. I wondered why my worked opposite the way I thought they should work.

George
 
It's counter-intuitive until you think about exactly what the tabs are doing. The port tab lifts the port stern which pushes the stbd bow dowh and vice versa. The operator isn't thinking about which way to lift the stern, only which way to move the bow. Thus the tabs are wired opposite.
 
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