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And the call goes out again to BillyIII -
a few threads ago you mentioned the cable WiFi collaboration (e.g., Cablevision, TWC, Xfinity, Cox) for wireless access. Like Captchas, I was looking for a way for my Rogue WiFi to automatically connect to various hotspots.

On the cablevision website, there's a FAQ about connecting w/ devices w/o a browser - they ask for a MAC address. Do you know if the Rogue bridge has such an address? Obviously their (cablevision) FAQ is geared towards handheld/laptop devices, and has no reference to Rogues . . ...
 
Yes to get the ROGUE's MAC address go to the settings tab on the lower right side of the page is the device's MAC address. This is the 3rd tab over it also shows the IP and subnet. You only need the devices MAC address. I have my EC/HP/ER registered with Comcast. Comcast/Xfinity shares your log in information with the other cable providers WiFi authentication servers.
Bill
 
I knew I came to the right guy(s)!!! So, If I'm out cruising w/ the wifi going, will it jump hotspots, or do I still need to manually connect?
 
Manually connect unless you have the ROGUE with the "favorites list" then save one as a favorite and it might activate as it see's other Comcast/Xfinity Hotspots. I have not played with that feature on Comcast AP's to know if it will follow by the AP's broadcast SSID only.
Bill
 
Gene I assume you got the MAC address from the unit. Have you tried connecting your ROGUE to a Comcast/Infinity hotspot has it worked?
Does it re-connect when it see's another Comcast/Xfinity hotspot?
Bill
 
I was on the boat this past weekend, but spent too much time on the dink to play w/ the internet!! I'll be down there this week and give it a try. I know there's a least one xfininty wifi site on the 'available networks' list, so I'll try that first. . ...

Thanks Billy.
 
I am a time Warner Internet customer at my home. How do I find out if they have any hot spos in my area?

Are they password protected? Do I ask time warner for the password?

Thanks for the help
 
Not sure if they have a page that shows the locations. You can connect to the hotspot and get an IP, but when you browse you are required to login to a TWC webpage before you get outside access. I have a Linksys wireless router on my boat to boost the signal and use a tablet to get access to email, weba nd Netflix for the kids.

MJK
 
Go to their website recently Time Warner/Roadrunner, CableVision, Cox Communications and Comcast/ Xfinity announced they will allow roaming/sharing on their WiFi networks. Each carrier has a web site showing access points. Along the Jersey shore the barrier islands provide many that if you have a good external WiFi antenna and fairly powerful Bridge/router you can connect to. You only need to have their internet service at home or in your office for access. As long as your IT department is ok with it if you are not an owner/member like I am you can use your company's account. With Comcast/Xfinity they have an initial log in page when you connect a new device it asks for the connecting device MAC address, your username and password the last 2 are my e-mail address and it's password. Once you set that device up it is stored in their authentication server. Using a high power bridge router if your installation is similar to mine it's the routers MAC address that is needed not the machine I have connected behind the router.
Bill
 
Sharing the Airwaves, WiFi Style

Having a pipe into customers’ homes used to be something that cable companies benefited from. At first, that pipe allowed cable to provide static free access to local content and, more important, premium content, such as HBO, that simply wasn’t available over the airwaves. These were the big items that led to widespread acceptance and adoption of the cable companies’ offerings, despite premium pricing. In fact, in the beginning, the competition (rabbit ears on a television set) was free.

Then, the Internet came in and started to make life more difficult for the cable companies. Phone lines were being used to transfer information and customers were jumping on game-changing technologies offered by such companies as AOL (AOL) and a host of other now defunct Internet access providers. To combat this, cable companies started to offer Internet access over their cable lines. Phone companies started providing such services, too, leading to an arms race of sorts to provide the fastest service speeds. To better compete with the phone companies, which had their own pipes into customers’ homes, the cable companies started to offer phone service, too.

Now, however, mobile access is all the rage and having a pipe into a person’s home is starting to look like a disadvantage. Moreover, people are increasingly consuming content, video and otherwise, on the go. Combating such a shift in consumer choice is hard if a company is tied to a house with a cable. Thus, cable companies began to provide so-called WiFi hot spots for their customers. This network of wireless locations uses the same technology that individuals use in their homes to connect wirelessly to their networks. Such hot spots were set up in locations that cable customers might find themselves, such as train stations, parks, beaches, coffee houses, and shopping areas, such as malls.

The systems work well, but access can seem idiosyncratic and limited (why one mall and not another, for example). Comcast (CMCSA), Cablevision (CVC), and Time Warner Cable (TWC) attempted to link up their networks earlier, but the connections weren’t collected under a single brand, making the experience confusing, at best, for the end user. Now, with the addition of privately held Cox Communications and Bright House Networks, a single, unified brand is being presented. The “CableWiFi” brand allows subscribers to know instantly that they can access, without concern, a WiFi network for free. The coverage, while still huddled around prime areas like train stations and malls, is broader now that all of the cable companies have joined forces. There are expected to be more than 50,000 connection points, known as hotspots, across major cities like New York, Los Angeles, Tampa, Orlando, and Philadelphia.

This isn’t a make or break deal for the cable companies, but it is an important strategic initiative. Wireless device users have, for years, used WiFi at local coffee shops or McDonald’s (MCD – Free McDonald’s Stock Report) locations as a way to keep monthly cell phone costs down. While cable still has many benefits, including the stickiness of an existing relationship, providing such WiFi access gives customers a reason to stick around an old technology even longer. After all, in cities such as New York, people typically go from home to office and office to home the same way every day. Customers won’t get rid of their cell phones, but many mobile devices can use WiFi or cellular networks which is likely to lead customers preferring to stay attached to their cable-company-provided WiFi so they can skip the higher bills that data usage (streaming movies, reading emails, video chatting) can bring about.

This deal will likely increase the longevity of the cable business model for a time, at least until new technological challenges come about, but it does nothing to combat the issue of changing viewing tastes. The cable providers have largely taken that one too, however, by providing their content over the Internet, as well as through a cable hook-up. Cable is far from a dying business, but it is clearly under attack from the combination of the Internet and wireless connectivity. So far, the cable providers have been up to the challenge, but it is only so long before the ties that bind are the ties that strangle.

For an example of this, consider the growing number of young and old who have chosen to use only a cell phone—dispensing with the phone line altogether. This is one of the major reasons why large telecommunications operators, like Verizon (VZ – Free Verizon Stock Report) and AT&T (T – Free AT&T Stock Report), are now more cell phone focused than land line focused. How cable companies will jump on this bandwagon is harder to gauge. So while this group effort is a good near-term decision, the long-term wireless connectivity problem isn’t over for the cable companies.

At the time of this article’s writing, the author did not have positions in any of the companies mentioned.
 
Billy,
Cant thank Walter and You for hooking me up with the ROGUE. The damn thing is AWESOME !

Rob
 
I didnt dump Cablevision just for the reason Billy states above !

Rob
 
Rob glad it worked, it was quite a difference over trying to use your laptop with no external equipment huh?
I can't stress to anyone contemplating using WiFi in a boat what a quality product and external antenna do for the performance and user experience.
Bill
 
quote:

Originally posted by Robski97

I didnt dump Cablevision just for the reason Billy states above !

Rob





Rob with your money I'm surprised you didn't buy stock in CableVision!
Best of luck and enjoy the enhanced WiFi solution.
Bill
 
I dumped Cablevision for FIOS at home as soon it was available in my area, and never looked back.
The Cablevision Hotspots are nice, but so far have been inconsistent in their availability and quality. I do have a cablevision user name and password and use it with my iPhone, but there aren't enough strong signal locations to make it worth leaving FIOS for them.
I would like to figure out a way to get WiFi on the boat so that I could get some occassional work done from there. I think I might wind up going for one of those Verizon or AT&T mobile hot spots. One of my clients has one and I shared a connection with him at a meeting recently. I have to say that it was a lot quicker than I thought it would be.
 
Still jumping thru hoops - Found the MAC ID on the Rogue, and went to the cablevision website to input - - turns out that unless I'm on my "Home network" I cannot add/delete/update wifi devices - apparently cablevision recogonizes that I'm using one of their hotspots, not my home network!

Copied the ID, went home and did the addition (Cablevision limits users to registering 4 devices for use on thier wifi system) - just need to get back to the boat to test. Will keep you all updated.
 
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Originally posted by JVM225

I dumped Cablevision for FIOS at home as soon it was available in my area, and never looked back.
The Cablevision Hotspots are nice, but so far have been inconsistent in their availability and quality. I do have a cablevision user name and password and use it with my iPhone, but there aren't enough strong signal locations to make it worth leaving FIOS for them.
I would like to figure out a way to get WiFi on the boat so that I could get some occassional work done from there. I think I might wind up going for one of those Verizon or AT&T mobile hot spots. One of my clients has one and I shared a connection with him at a meeting recently. I have to say that it was a lot quicker than I thought it would be.





FIOS is great but it won't help in your boat. Neither will using a stand alone I-Phone you can not gauge the number and quality of Hotspots on a boat without a device similar to the ROGUE with an external antenna.
That's the entire point of this thread.
There is nothing wrong with having a 3G/4G hotspot in addition to a good WiFi system. They compliment each other.
Bill
 
I have the sprint hotspot thing. Buddy has verizons version. Sadly i found both useless. I like to read the paper online.( post app on the ipad ) using the hotspot is joke. PAges load really slow . Pictures ( ads ) take forever. Thast why i went with the rougue thing that Billy and walter set me up with. Mind u im not a fan of cablevision but with the hotspots and the money i have invested in Tivo DVR's it wasnt worth changing.

Rob
 
A quick note about the Cable Comapany limits on WiFi devices. You are generally limited to 4-5 devices that can be used at one time. I know with Comcast Xfinity you can register more devices you can only use 5 devices while on their Hotspots. If you use a Bridge Router and external antenna for performance and enhanced signal conditions you could have 10 devices behind the routers MAC address. How do I know this? I tried it, I gathered all the I-Pads, I-Phones and laptops and took them to the boat once I connected to the Hotspot with my Wave EC/HP with the firewall (ON) every device was usable.
If anyone has any other WiFi questions and I would be willing to do the research if I don't know the answer.
Bill
 
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